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    Question: Who are Rohingya people?

    Answers: Bengali people who migrated into Arakan when British colonized Burma since 1824. They asked to have a separate Islamic State on Burma soil after independence from Britain in 1947. When Burmese politicians declined, they created a new word in history "Rohingya" and asked for ethinicity since then. They were never ethnic groups of Arakan Kingdoms or Burmese 40 year reign before colonization. They were never part of Arakan/Burmese long lived ethnic groups.

    In Burma, only the ethnic groups who lived in Burma before the British Colonization can have the right to have native ethnicity. Therefore, these Bengali people created false representation to international community by making false histories. Due to their nature of terrorism and violence, Bengladesh also wants to deny their living and supported the lies and fake historical facts from "Rohingya".

    Simple Answer: The term "Rohingya" never existed before 1947 before these Bengali people called themselves. They are just migrants from India Sub-continent who migrated during the British Colonial Period.

    Shortest Answer: Bengali Migrants who migrated to Arakan during colonial time who asked for independent Islamic State in Burma when Burma got independence.

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    burmese historians like khin maung saw asserted that the term rohingya has never appeared in history before 1950s.[1] according to another historian, dr. Maung maung, there is no such word as rohingya in 1824 census survey conducted by the british.[2] historian aye chan from kanda university of international studies noted that the term rohingya was created by descendants of bengalis in 1950s who migrated into arakan during colonial area. He further argued that the term cannot be found in any historical source in any language before 1950s. Moreover, he stated that it mean muslim communities have not existed in arakan before 1824.[3]

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    the history professor dr. aye chan from kanda university of international studies, chiba, japan said,
    these people were descendents of the bengali agricultural laborers in the british colonial period. I have historically proved that. You can read my article in "soas bulletin of burma research 3-2." i am ready to debate with any scholar on this topic. They came to live in arakan state in the colonial period. The arakanese people welcomed. After the second world war, they were the majority in that area and before the declaration of independence they demanded the area to be incorporated into east pakistan that is now bangladesh. When the pakistani leaders discouraged their demand they declared jihad on the union of burma. When they lost the jungle war, they created the term "rohingya," calling for the "rohingya state" for them. There has never been such an ethnic group in burmese history. I agree what the congressman smith said that after living for generations these pakistani, arabs and indians became british citizens. But these immigrants in britain are not demanding a national territory. They are not demanding a separate ethnic identity, like the scottish, irish or welsh. They are not calling for a national area of themselves even in the north sea. They call themselves british. In 1947 these chittagonian bengalis demanded the partition of arakan into two states. How would the native arakanese feel if their ancestral land is divided to give away a part to the immigrants? I want to ask bbc and u tun khin.
    although muslim settlements have existed in arakan since the arrival of arabs there in the 8th century ad, there is no clear connection between these early arabs and the rohingya, especially since the rohingya are in many ways more bengali. The direct descendants of arab settlers live in central arakan near mrauk-u and kyauktaw townships, not in the mayu frontier area, the present day rohingya populated area.[5]
    the british census of 1891 reported 58,255 muslims in arakan. By 1911, the muslim population had increased to 178,647.[6] the waves of immigration were primary due to the requirement of cheap labor from the british india to work at the paddy fields. Exactly why these increases in muslim population are assumed to be the result of migration and not conversion of people in arakan is an issue that burmese historians seem to ignore more than address.
    in 1939, the british authorities, who were wary of the long term animosity between the rakhine buddhists and the rohingya muslims, formed a special investigation commission led by james ester and u tin htut to study the issue of muslim immigration into the rakhine state. The commission recommended to tighten up the border however, with the start of world war ii, the british retreated from arakan.[7]
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    စကားမစပ္ ဝီကီပီဒီယာထဲ ဘယ္လိုဝင္ေရးသလဲ? နည္းလမ္းေလးေျပာပါဦး။
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    က်ေတာ္ ေျပာျခင္တာက ကယ္ထုတ္ျပီးပါျပီ ဆိုတဲ့ အေနအထားပါ။ အရင္က ဒီနယ္ေျမေတြက ရခိုင္ေတြ မ်ိဳးရိုးစဥ္ဆက္ ေနခဲ့တဲ့ ေနရာေတြပါ။ အခုေတာ့ သူတို႔ကို အဲဒီေနရာေတြက ေန ကယ္ထုတ္လိုက္ရတဲ့ အေျခအေန ျဖစ္သြားျပီ။ အဲသလိုမ်ိဳးလည္း အၾကိမ္ၾကိမ္ ျဖစ္ခဲ့ဘူးျပီ။ ျဖစ္ျပီးသြားတိုင္းလည္း အေျခအေနေတြ ဘယ္လိုဘဲ ျပန္လည္ တည္ျငိမ္သြားပါျပီ ေျပာေျပာ ကယ္ထုတ္ခံခဲ့ရသူေတြက ျပန္သြားမေနေတာ့ဘူး။ အဲသည္ အခါမွာ အဲသည္ေဒသေတြမွာ ဘယ္သူေတြက လူမ်ားစု အျဖစ္ ပိုျဖစ္လာျပီ ဘယ္လို ပိုၾကီးစိုးလာခဲ့သလည္း ဆိုတာလည္း ရွင္းရွင္းလင္းလင္း ျမင္ႏိုင္ပါတယ္။ အခု သူတို႔ေတြ ျဖစ္ျခင္ဒါကလည္း အဲဒီလိုဘဲ ထပ္ျဖစ္ေစျခင္တာပါ။ သူတို႔ရဲ ရည္ရြယ္ခ်က္ ေအာင္ျမင္တယ္လို႔ ေျပာလိုရမဲ့ အေနအထားပါ။ သူတို႔ေတြ ထြက္ေျပးစြန္ခြါထားခဲ့ရတဲ့ ေနရာေတြကို ႏိုင္ငံတကာ ဖိအားနဲ႔ သူတို႔ အရင္ကထက္ ပိုမ်ားတဲ့ အေရအတြက္နဲ႔ ျပန္၀င္လာမွာပါ။ သူတို႔ ေၾကာင့္ စြန္ခြါ ထြက္ေျပးခဲ့ရသူေတြကို က်ေတာ့ အဲသည္ ေနရာေတြကို ျပန္သြားျဖစ္ေအာင္ ဘယ္သူကမွ အကူအညီ အကာအကြယ္ မေပးပါဘူး။
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    နားလည္တတ္ကၽြမ္းတဲ့ သူေတြမ်ားေတာ့ ေအာက္ကအေၾကာင္းအရာေလးေတြ ေမးၾကည့္ခ်င္တယ္ဗ်ာ။ စစ္တပ္ကလည္း ဝင္ေနပါတယ္၊ ပုဒ္မ ၁၄၄ လဲထုတ္ထားပါတယ္။ ေန႔တိုင္းေတာ့ ရခိုင္ျပည္နယ္က ၿမိဳ႕ရြာေတြ မီးရိႈ႕ခံေနရတာ၊ ရခိုင္တိုင္းရင္းသားေတြ သတ္ျဖတ္ခံေနရတာေတြကေတာ့ ဆက္လက္ျဖစ္ပြားေနတုန္းပါပဲ။

    (၁)။ စစ္ေတြနဲ႔ ရခိုင္ျပည္နယ္က ၿမိဳ႔ေတြမွာ လံုျခံဳေရးတပ္ဖြဲ႕ေတြ မလံုေလာက္ဘူးတဲ့။ ၈၈ အေရးအခင္းတုန္းက ယခုေလာက္အင္အား မေတာင့္ေသးတဲ့ စစ္တပ္က လမ္းေထာင့္တိုင္း၊ ေနရာတိုင္းမွာ ျပည္သူေတြကို အခါမလပ္ ေစာင့္ၾကည့္ခဲ့ပါတယ္။ လူစုလူေဝးျဖစ္လာလို႔ လူစုခြဲခိုင္းတာမရရင္ ပစ္ပါတယ္။ အခု ရခိုင္ျပည္နယ္က ဖ်က္ဆီးမွဳေတြတားဆီးဖို႔အတြက္ လံုေလာက္တဲ့ အင္အား ဘာလို႔မေပးႏုိင္ရတာလဲ။
    (၂)။ ပုဒ္မ ၁၄၄ ထုတ္ထားတယ္။ ၅ ေယာက္ထက္ပိုမစုရဘူး။ ဒီအခ်ိန္မွာ လူစုၿပီး မီးရိႈ႕တဲ့သူေတြကို တားမရလို႔ ပစ္ပိုင္ခြင့္မရွိဘူးလား။ မီးရႈိ႕တာ ရာဇဝတ္ျပစ္မွဳပါ၊ ရာဇဝတ္သားကို အဖမ္းမခံရင္ ပစ္ခြင့္မရွိဘူးလား။ ဓါတ္ပံုေတြမွာေတာ့ လံုျခံဳေရးတပ္ေတြေရွ႕မွာပဲ မီးရိႈ႕ထားတဲ့ ပံုေတြေတြ႕ေနရတယ္။
    (၃)။ ခုဆိုရင္ ၅ ရက္ေျမာက္ပါၿပီ၊ ႏိုင္ငံေတာ္သမၼတႀကီးနဲ႔တကြ ဆရာ့ ဆရာႀကီးမ်ားကေတာ့ စိတ္ရွည္ဖို႔၊သည္းခံဖို႔ ေျပာၾကားေနတုန္းပါပဲ။ ဘယ္အခ်ိန္ထိစိတ္ရွည္ရမွာလဲ။ ရခိုင္လူမ်ိဳးေတြ ကုန္တဲ့အထိလား၊ ရခိုင္ျပည္နယ္ကို ကုလားေတြလက္ထဲေရာက္တဲ့အထိ သည္းခံရမွာလား။
    (၄)။ ခုခ်ိန္မွာ ျမန္မာႏိုင္ငံလူမ်ိဳး ၁၃၅ မ်ိဳးထဲမွာ မပါဘူးလို႔ အတည္အလင္းေၾကျငာထားတဲ့ လူမ်ိဳးတစ္စုအတြက္ ဘာဖိအားေတြကို ေၾကာက္ေနတာလဲ။ တစ္မ်ိဳးသားလံုးညီညီညြတ္ညြတ္ တြန္းလွန္လို႔ မျဖစ္ဘူးလား။
    (၅)။ ျငိမ္းခ်မ္းေရးနဲ႕ မ်ိဳးခ်စ္စိတ္ ဘယ္ဟာကို ဦးစားေပးသင့္သလဲ။

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