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[AungDin]

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usaemf..bmaNym&rSef;rodbl;.....
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NrefrmEkdifiHom;..pGefUvTwfwmu..
rdrdbmom...bJNzpfvkdUvm;..
EkdifiHa&;aMumifUvm;qdkwm..bmomqHk;NzwfaygU..

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[koze]

udkomEkd;..AD'D,dk..uvpfMunfYNyD;...
usaemf..bmaNym&rSef;rodbl;.....
pdwfxJrSm..raumif;bl;...

NrefrmEkdifiHom;..pGefUvTwfwmu..
rdrdbmom...bJNzpfvkdUvm;..
EkdifiHa&;aMumifUvm;qdkwm..bmomqHk;NzwfaygU..

atmif'if

Giving up (Myanmar) citizenship does not mean discarding Myanmar culture nor traditions. It is just legality and/or financial/beneficial issues of individual. I saw some Sino Burmeses in US who still love Myanmar country even they never been Myanmar citizen officially. On the other hand, some newcomer Myanmar are discarding Myanmar traditions in first a few years.

I bet Ko Thar Noe may love Myanmar culture but dare not to become Myanmar citizen even if it is possible.
Again, it is just my 2 pennies.

Koze

[AungDin]

Giving up (Myanmar) citizenship does not mean discarding Myanmar culture nor traditions. It is just legality and/or financial/beneficial issues of individual. I saw some Sino Burmeses in US who still love Myanmar country even they never been Myanmar citizen officially. On the other hand, some newcomer Myanmar are discarding Myanmar traditions in first a few years.

I bet Ko Thar Noe may love Myanmar culture but dare not to become Myanmar citizen even if it is possible.
Again, it is just my 2 pennies.

Koze

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[koze]

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usaemf..'Do&ufrSm..a&;Nzpfwmu..
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Yeh, I misunderstood your words since Ko Thar Noe is mixed in there.

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atmif'if

I guess most of the people did it due to inequality of life as Myanmar citizens.
Such as:
You are being treated like dirt in Myanmar embassies.
Your tax dollars will be the fund for guns and weapons. (early 90s before profits from oil & gas)
As a Myanmar citizen, you are on your own in case of disaster or crisis.
You may be losing a lot of critical benefits of a citizen in that country.

And if you are not from Hi-so class on Myanmar, you are just second class citizen of Myanmar. A lot of people may decide that it is better to be second class citizen of other country than being a second class of Myanmar.

Again, those are just my assumptions based on over 16 years of overseas experience. Never did a scientific poll or survey about it.

Now, who's thinking we should have a cupid group to lobby NLD to sponsor the immigration reform in Myanmar?

[batoe]

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[AungDin]

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atmif'if

[koze]

I thought this topic is about Myanmar. Are we talking about Chinese now?

Just FYI, these Chinese descendants were discriminated in Myanmar for having a Chinese sounding name. So are the Hindu and Muslims.

[AungDin]

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